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Burcham



Joined: 08 Apr 2010
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Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Burcham of Wiltshire - Buying the best... Reply with quote

Hello,

My name is Ross Burcham of Burcham Car Sourcing Ltd. a specialist vehicle sourcing company based in Salisbury, Wiltshire.

Whilst our core business is in sourcing all makes and models of vehicles for our clients ranging from the very mundane to the very exciting, I have always had a particular interest in Land Rover and have owned a long line of Solihull's finest (and a number I am sure they would rather forget!)

Current personal LR's:
2005 Disco 3 HSE
2006 110 XS CSW last of the 9 seaters
1956 Series 1 88" Ex Civil Defence
1983 Series 111 88" Safari SW - 24,000 miles!

In September 2009 we launched our Land Rover specialist company under the 'Burcham' brand, our aim is to bring to market some of the finest examples across the LR range with a particular focus on Late Discovery 2's and LE Defender models.

Because of our busy sourcing business we are under no pressure to buy large numbers of vehicles to fill our forecourt, in-fact we don't even have a forecourt! rather we work from a converted dairy in the middle of nowhere. We hand pick the very best vehicles and are thorough to the point of obsessive in their preparation.

As such we are on the constant lookout for exceptional Land Rovers, we are detailed in our background checks and thorough in our inspections but we do pay for quality and would welcome the opportunity to consider any vehicle you feel would meet our requirements.

We have just sold GB123 and are delighted to have secured the truly sublime GB074 which will be advertised for sale shortly. I would be grateful if anyone has any information on GB074. We have a full history file including a fully stamped service book and full MOT history with all supporting manuals etc. It was maintained thoroughly by Cummings until it's sale by Cummings to the last owner who took the car to Scotland where it was look after with no expense spared at Taggarts Land Rover Glasgow.

If you have any information on GB074 perhaps you are one of the other two owners, or you would be interested in owning her, please feel free to contact me directly on 01722 568068 or through our website www.burchamcarsourcing.com

Kind regards,

Ross Burcham.
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Vince



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: gb074 Reply with quote

Ross,

Like I said in my email to you, there are defender 50th enthousiasts here who keep track of the few 50th that are around.
GB074 which you have on sale now for 16995,- pounds, is a high price for a car that people walked away frow a few months ago.
Use the search option in this forum and look for gb 074. you will find more about your car.
Like I said before over the phone, I am also looking for a good car for a fair price, and among other, using this forum as a source turns out gb 074 was not the car for me.

best regards

Vince
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Burcham



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vince thank you for your comments.

As discussed with you on the phone, I am not sure that you information is completely accurate as this car has been in private ownership since August 2009 when it was bought from Cummings. It has not been for sale in the past few months, infact the owner contacted us as a result of our successful marketing of GB123 offering it for sale - it has not been marketed since 2009 and prior to that since 1999!

Prior to the last owner the car was owned by Graham West of Salcombe from 1999 and was maintained annually by Cummings from 2000 at 5,381 miles to 2009 at 28,340 miles and subsiquently at Taggarts of Glasgow.

I know you are looking for one of the best available and I know that this car would not dissapoint (condition and provenance). We only buy what we consider to be exceptional vehicles - this one is no different.

As for the price - and I should state that the car is not advertised for sale yet as we have not completed our thorough preparation - I know it is amongst the highest out there at the suggested 16,995 this is a reflection of what we had to pay to secure it which was 2,000 more than GB123 which sold for 15,995 and its superior quality.

Rememebr these are 12 year old vehicles - they are bound to have had some use by their enthusiast owners but the condition of this car speaks for itself...

I would urge you to view it and make up your own mind.

Best wishes,

Ross.
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defender50th
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

From what i know, GB 074 was offered for sale in Bodmin by a garage, cummings i think, in May 09. It didnt sell straight away as had corrosion on door and crossmember and was a little tatty. End of May it was put into there workshops and i guess it was sorted out, maybe a respray if its very nice now.
If your looking for a mint totally origonal one maybe this is not for you, but if you dont mind some previous restoration work being carried it may be a fine example to own.

I'm only in Andover so i'm quite close to Burcham if anyone wants me to take a look.
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Burcham



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James,

I think you are right, it would be impossible for a factory car to be in this condition after 12 years without any attention.

Cummings definately spent some time and energy making this car as close to new condition prior to it's sale back in 2009, which I am told included a complete strip down and respray by Aston Martin paint technitions no less! The result is staggering - dare I say better than new in terms of paint quality...

As for the rear crossmember, I cannot find any evidence of replacement or even repair for that matter - at the most it could have been refinished as part of the overall paintwork.

The end result is a 32,000 mile car with all the right history in genuinely first class condition.

It would be great if you would come down to visit us, I would welcome your expert appraisal on what I consider to be a very fine example indeed.

Best wishes,

Ross.
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Denis O



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a website for enthusiasts of the LR brand, specifically the 50th, or is it to be used for commercial gain by 2nd hand car dealers?

I for one think that our members are very good in advising other interested and like minded people of the availability of 50th's of all shapes and sizes and we hardly need people with a commercial interest eulogising about their latest profit making item.
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Burcham



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denis 0,

Thanks for the warm welcome to the site...

I am in-fact a lifelong LR enthusiast so much so that I happen to have put my money where my mouth is and made it my business.

One thing that has always appealed to me about the LR brand, apart from the fantastic range of vehicles is the amazing brand loyalty and camaraderie between owners that I continually experience - quite different to any other brand!

I am not sure why you seem to have taken such an exception to my interest in the history of GB074 or in-fact that I have chosen to offer it to the members of this forum prior to formally marketing it. I would see that as an advantage rather than an outrage!?! Isn't that what this forum is for?

I have noticed from a number of your posts that you seem to be a bit anti-dealer, why don't you come on down and visit us so that you can see that we are not all bad - you might surprise yourself!

Regards,

Ross.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

16,995 Ha Ha
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are a friendly lot, really.......... Laughing

I thought his introduction was quite polite and explained his personal interest in land rovers.

From what I remember it had some corrosion on the bottom of the doors, the rear cross member had surface corrosion. It was just tatty for a low mileage vehicle. It was not full of dents or holes drilled in it, so the surface refinishing would have sorted it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Dennis O, right behind you
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard some great things regarding Burchan.....a very good friend of mine bought a lovely LSE from them a few months back.

I am a dealer aswell and the only reason I work for myself is to get away from the main dealer mentalty of max profits and minimum customer care. We are not all bad!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burcham wrote:
Denis 0,

Thanks for the warm welcome to the site...

I am in-fact a lifelong LR enthusiast so much so that I happen to have put my money where my mouth is and made it my business.

One thing that has always appealed to me about the LR brand, apart from the fantastic range of vehicles is the amazing brand loyalty and camaraderie between owners that I continually experience - quite different to any other brand!

I am not sure why you seem to have taken such an exception to my interest in the history of GB074 or in-fact that I have chosen to offer it to the members of this forum prior to formally marketing it. I would see that as an advantage rather than an outrage!?! Isn't that what this forum is for?

I have noticed from a number of your posts that you seem to be a bit anti-dealer, why don't you come on down and visit us so that you can see that we are not all bad - you might surprise yourself!

Regards,

Ross.


A bit anti dealer Shocked I am totally anti dealer, and with good reason. The last 2 vehicles I bought from dealers were as follows:

1). Disco 2 ES V8. Informed dealer within 12 hours that it had slipped liner/porous block. Bottom line is he would not get involved in independant testing and basically told me to feck off. I took him to court under SOGA and before we got to court he closed his showroom and disappeared. I had to pay 3k for a new engine and the AA warranty he sold me expressly discounted porous blocks.

2). X5. Noisy starter motor within 1 week. New motor fitted whilst Insp 2 being done. Cost 187 + Fitting. Dealer offered 50 as that's what his man would have repaired it for. Yes, so could mine but I wanted the job done properly so it didn't fail in a couple of weeks. I didn't want a bodge.

I now buy privately in the full knowledge that I have no protection but then I also don't pay obscene profit margins that you licensed bandits make. I can make a lot of repairs for the 3k - 5k dealer premium.

Is it irrational to tar all dealers with the same brush. Probably, but it's my view and I don't have to substantiate it to you or anyone else.

You also don't listem. Vince makes relevant points about the car as to why he didn't buy it. You respond with the comment that he must be missinformed. Why? Because you want to sell it and you don't want people seeing any negatives because it eats into your margin.

As a LR enthusiast I would welcome you. As a 2nd hand car dealer I wouldn't walk across the road to piss on you if you were on fire. Cool
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Burcham



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denis 0,

Charming, just charming...

The power of anonymity!

The language and sentiment in your post is unacceptable, personal and purile.

Defender50th is this the type of contribution you condone on this forum?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: def. 50th Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burcham wrote:


Defender50th is this the type of contribution you condone on this forum?


I certainly do not condone it, but being a forum everyone can have their opinion.

Car dealers may have a bad reputation, but i would say a car sourcing person is different. I have had a good experience with a car sourcing guy who also specialised in land rovers, could not do enough to help.
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